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Week 3: In the name of maximizing teens’ energy and talent, might it be time to end the concept of “adolescence”?

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Dr. Robert Epstein

Founder & Director Emeritus, Cambridge Center for Behavioral Studies

In my book Teen 2.0: Saving Our Children and Families from the Torment of Adolescence, I asserted that adults largely deny teens both the responsibilities and rights of adult life, yet we expect you to be serious about learning (as well as driving, your health, and many other matters). I discuss how “adolescence” was invented to help keep youth out of sweatshops and coal mines, but the long-term effect is that you are trapped you in a phase of life that’s unnecessary, restricting you from achieving a lot for yourselves and for our nation. For example, I found that U.S. teens have 10 times as many restrictions as adults, twice as many as active-duty U.S. marines and twice as many as incarcerated felons!

Consider these stories of “achievement” from a different time: At age 13, Benjamin Franklin finished school in Boston, was apprenticed to his brother, a printer and publisher, and moved immediately into adulthood. John Quincy Adams attended Leiden University in Holland at 13 and at 14 was employed as secretary and interpreter by the American Ambassador to Russia. At 16 he was secretary to the U.S. delegation during the negotiations with Britain that ended the Revolution. Daniel Boone got his first rifle at 12, was an expert hunter at 13, and at 15 made a yearlong trek through the wilderness to begin his career as America's most famous explorer. The list goes on and on.

What do you think? In the name of maximizing teens’ energy and talent, might it be time to end the concept of “adolescence”? Do you feel restricted, or held back from what you might otherwise be accomplishing? If so, in what ways? With less restriction, would you spend your time differently? If given more responsibility and opportunity, would YOU achieve more? How so?

Student Commentator Responses:
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Molly M.

I believe the youth of today are the most valuable resource to utilize. We experience life as citizens from a whole different perspective than adults. We understand things with a different sense of logic in comparison to adults. However, with the limits placed upon us, it is hard for adults to see how insightful we can be. I believe the concept of adolescence is imaginary, only made up by adults because they do not think we are capable, or mature enough, to handle "adult" tasks. In everyday life, I feel as a teenager we don't have the choice on most of the decisions that impact us. Our school district is cutting 363 teachers on the account of low funding, and the students are the ones being affected the most. However, we did not get a say in how the budget should be handled. Although I understand the logical reasoning behind saving money for the district, our opinions deserve to be heard. There may be possible alternatives to the crisis. With less restriction as a teenager, I would embrace this new found freedom and form partnerships with adults who make important decisions and be sure to put forth a representative voice of youth. I would be sure to achieve more as an advocate for youth and put some of our input on the table.

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Semeo D.

Personally, I don't believe in the idea, of someone suddenly becoming mature or capable at a certain age. My school is K-12 nd I have seen 6 to 8 year old students put projects together that some teens wouldn't even think of let alone do the work to put together. An example is one child I know who is 7 loves trains and can tell you about all the different models trains have, their gauges, where they are in the world, how old the train is, etc. He's very articulate and outspoken about it to, in a way I find even some adults would have difficulty in doing. I believe when someone truly loves learning about something, they will pursue learning it against all odds, including society's general idea that kids and teens are less responsible or less capable. To put it short and sweetly, I don't feel restricted in accomplishing things and I pursue having more responsibility and opprtunity for things I care about. As for ending the concept of adolescence, I feel it's more important to create educational environments where students of all ages feel able to follow the careers and life goals they want to then to end the "idea" of adolescence..

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Kumar F. K.

Although I sometimes feel like adults put unnecessary restrictions on my life and don't let me make desicions of my own, I think 'adolescence' is an important part of human development. I heard once that the brain of a teenager is closest to the brain of toddler than any other age group. I do not think that it would be the best idea to have people like me be completely free. I know my friends and I sometimes do not make the best descisions and don't think things through fully; this is probably because we are not as mature and ready to take on the whole world as our teachers, parents, and other adults in our lives are. If I had less restriction, I feel like I wouldn't spend my time much differently. I would still spend most of my time doing my homework and messing around outside. The only real difference I can think of is I would probably stop asking adults for permission when I want to do something. I would just head off to a friends' house on my bike without worrying about what the consequences might be. But although I don't think reducing restrictions would have a huge affect on my life, some people I know would run wild and do all kinds of crazy things. For know, I think that the best way teens can accomplish real world projects would be participating in things like this.

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Marie S.

This is an intriguing question, and I'll probably weigh in again when I've had a chance to read Mr. Epstein's book. My kneejerk opinion is this:

I've had a bit of a bumpy adolescence, so I've been grateful to have eight or ten years to make mistakes. On the other hand, it's possible that I've had a bumpy adolescence precisely because I've spent it under the thumb of people who know better, or that I see myself as an overgrown child who needs to cook until she's civilized because I've been told that I am for years.

I am absolutely certain, however, that a number of these arbitrary restrictions for adolscents do need to be lifted, especially where their education is concerned. I probably wouldn't have the world's teenagers turned loose on the world's univerisities, but they can absolutely be trusted to collaborate with teachers and dicate their own curricula.

This is, essentially, the mission of my high school, which celebrated its fourtieth anniversary this year. The high school program at Jefferson County Open School centers on six intensive projects that are known as Passages, each with a broad theme. (Adventure, Career Exploration, Creativity, Global Awareness, Logical Inquiry and Practical Skills for those of you keeping score at home). Students are free to design their own projects within these themes. This year alone, students have embarked on slam poetry tours, taught classes in indigenous history, created full-scale wheatpaste murals, produced public-access televison shows and written novels through this program, and these are only the first few examples that spring to mind. My fellow students manage such dazzling accomplishments because they are permitted to find and explore their own passions instead of meeting one-size-fits-all requirements dreamed up by their elders in some misaimed attempt at producing "well-rounded" young people.

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Sara W.

I think adolescence is an important time for teenagers to make mistakes and see consequences. If we were just catapulted into adulthood, there would be a lot less wiggle room to try new things, because obviously not everything works out. As an adolescent I feel less pressure to be so accomplished and I appreciate that a little less is expected of me because I can take the opportunities I'm not so sure about, and hey if it doesn't work out, it's still okay. While restrictions can be annoying, I like having a few years to be free of the responsibility I will have for many more.

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Miriam O.

As like us teenagers, adolescence is the perfect time to make mistakes. We are not like adults that have experience in this world. We try new things and mess up but we learn from it. I still have a lot of years in the future to go and i am going through my own abolescent right now. I often think do teens try to be adult already? Yes they do but they really should just do their own thing in ths world. Trying news things are ok and if you mess up. . . its ok cause you still have a long way to live in the future. An then we learn from it and wont do it again, i have done this many times and learning from the best is good! Growing up is how it works we cant stop it we learn from it.

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Interesting: Martin Luther King entered Morehouse College at age 15 without formally graduating from high school. At 19, he got a BA. I wonder what the "adolescence" culture was at his house? And, if he were a teenager today would he follow the conventional path?

    Kim- I would definitely agree. Here on Citizing, it seems we use the terms “student” and “young adult” much more often than the label of “teenager” or “kid,” at least when referring to good behavior. I think you are on to something…. =)

      Wall Street Journal last weekend (we're not the only people thinking about this):

      It's Leave-Your-Kids-at-the-Park-Alone Day! A great antidote to helicopter parenting and predator panic.

       

        Another way to think about it Brett is that perhaps the terms are given out based on how people think about the "class" in general. I think a lot of adults use the word kids to refer to teens without thinking about it; and even teens refer to themselves as kids. Language choices can perhaps influence how people behave? (your suggestion was that it is the other way around, no?)

         

          Marie- I quite enjoyed that article, I think the picture fit in perfectly!

          You also bring up a point about synonyms, and it made me think about connotations surrounding certain words like “kid” versus “youth,” and “teenager” versus “young adult.” Do you think that certain kids, teenagers, young adults, etc, are labeled one or the other depending on their maturity level? Do certain terms have negative connotations?

            Finally got ahold of the book! Whoever checked it out before me must have forgotten they had it.  I'm two chapters in and I'm quite disturbed--though not entirely surprised--by the classist implications of some of these laws.

            On a related note, I read this Onion article a couple of weeks ago that I think sums up the point Kim has been trying to make quite neatly: http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-down-to-last-hundred-grownups,20491/

            In order to get our collective head around this idea we'll have to stop thinking of "adult" and "grown-up" as synonyms.

              I agree that if teens were infantilized less than they would, in general, act more responsibly.  People will rise to what is expected of them.  The problem I have with abolishing adolescence is that I fear people my age will be forced to choose a career path.  While some teens have that figured out already many, including me, do not.  And many more will change their minds in college.  I believe that teens should have more responsibility but that they should not be expected to live on their own and choose a path in life by the age of, say, 15.  

              My father always cites brain research as concrete evidence for why teens should not have more responsibility and I disagree with him on that.  I think that enough of the brain is developed to be trusted to make rational decisions but there is a difference between more responsibility and being cut loose into society.  

              The Allstate ad is rather offensive to the teen population but it probably appeals to a lot of parents and could be helpful in convincing them to buy the product. 

                p.s. What might Allstate have to gain from that ad?

                  Nora -- I appreciate your point, and I've been thinking about this throughout the weekend. he point in considering all of this is "what would happen IF". I don't think teens (and adults who grow up in today's culture) are inherently irresponsible or useless. But I DO wonder if there is a correlation between the degree to which we are infantilized and our capacity to achieve due to what we believe about ourselves and our abilities and what we're "supposed" to do. Even if we are responsible individuals doing well by most standards.

                  In the beginning of this dialogue a few of you cited articles that link brain research to your capacities as the reason why you shouldn't be given more responsibility. Dr. Epstein challenged the articles' conclusions -- the brain research is the brain research but many are taking liberties, he says, in linking the research to teens' abilities. Yet when he did this the discussion barely changed. Perhaps you don't know what to believe... Or perhaps this is a big leap from what you've all been told by corporations, schools, parents (who also grew up in this culture), etc. But I'm left wondering if this affected your thinking at all?

                  Here's an example of the corporate culture Epstein speaks of that personally irks me: There are all sorts of studies linking brain research to reasons why we should have graduated driver's license laws. Look at this Allstate ad. Asians are stereotyped as bad drivers, as a class. What if someone did this about Asian brains and Asian driving. My bet: Uproar! Teens, on the other hand, seem to accept this stuff. Definitely no uproar. (Possibly for reasons also related to our definition of "achievement"). If you grow up accepting it, what will happen to our society? I truly am asking that... (Side note related to your point Nora: My bet is Epstein is against such laws, showing trust in teens. I think he sees you as having the capacity to drive earlier. The problem/worry is that in a culture where we all accept this stuff that capacity decreases...)

                  We threw this question out early because it does require us all to suspend for a bit what we've always known to be "the truth" to consider something radically different. It's something we definitely need to get in the habit of to consider the definition of achievement. As always, we don't expect anyone to accept all the ideas, but to learn about and consider the ideas each week. Most will be ideas "different" from how we currently think about achievement.

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                  As to your socialization question, I think you're the first to link discussion 1 to discussion 2. I offered one idea about this in discussion 1 (that teens might still GO to a building to do online learning, with more self-direction and with teachers in a different role).

                    Brett -- Your question about whether expecations have changed since your parents' generation is a good one. For one, I don't think all thought they were going to 4 year colleges. What else can you all think of? Ask your parents, maybe?

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