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Week 3: In the name of maximizing teens’ energy and talent, might it be time to end the concept of “adolescence”?

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Dr. Robert Epstein

Founder & Director Emeritus, Cambridge Center for Behavioral Studies

In my book Teen 2.0: Saving Our Children and Families from the Torment of Adolescence, I asserted that adults largely deny teens both the responsibilities and rights of adult life, yet we expect you to be serious about learning (as well as driving, your health, and many other matters). I discuss how “adolescence” was invented to help keep youth out of sweatshops and coal mines, but the long-term effect is that you are trapped you in a phase of life that’s unnecessary, restricting you from achieving a lot for yourselves and for our nation. For example, I found that U.S. teens have 10 times as many restrictions as adults, twice as many as active-duty U.S. marines and twice as many as incarcerated felons!

Consider these stories of “achievement” from a different time: At age 13, Benjamin Franklin finished school in Boston, was apprenticed to his brother, a printer and publisher, and moved immediately into adulthood. John Quincy Adams attended Leiden University in Holland at 13 and at 14 was employed as secretary and interpreter by the American Ambassador to Russia. At 16 he was secretary to the U.S. delegation during the negotiations with Britain that ended the Revolution. Daniel Boone got his first rifle at 12, was an expert hunter at 13, and at 15 made a yearlong trek through the wilderness to begin his career as America's most famous explorer. The list goes on and on.

What do you think? In the name of maximizing teens’ energy and talent, might it be time to end the concept of “adolescence”? Do you feel restricted, or held back from what you might otherwise be accomplishing? If so, in what ways? With less restriction, would you spend your time differently? If given more responsibility and opportunity, would YOU achieve more? How so?

Student Commentator Responses:
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Molly M.

I believe the youth of today are the most valuable resource to utilize. We experience life as citizens from a whole different perspective than adults. We understand things with a different sense of logic in comparison to adults. However, with the limits placed upon us, it is hard for adults to see how insightful we can be. I believe the concept of adolescence is imaginary, only made up by adults because they do not think we are capable, or mature enough, to handle "adult" tasks. In everyday life, I feel as a teenager we don't have the choice on most of the decisions that impact us. Our school district is cutting 363 teachers on the account of low funding, and the students are the ones being affected the most. However, we did not get a say in how the budget should be handled. Although I understand the logical reasoning behind saving money for the district, our opinions deserve to be heard. There may be possible alternatives to the crisis. With less restriction as a teenager, I would embrace this new found freedom and form partnerships with adults who make important decisions and be sure to put forth a representative voice of youth. I would be sure to achieve more as an advocate for youth and put some of our input on the table.

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Semeo D.

Personally, I don't believe in the idea, of someone suddenly becoming mature or capable at a certain age. My school is K-12 nd I have seen 6 to 8 year old students put projects together that some teens wouldn't even think of let alone do the work to put together. An example is one child I know who is 7 loves trains and can tell you about all the different models trains have, their gauges, where they are in the world, how old the train is, etc. He's very articulate and outspoken about it to, in a way I find even some adults would have difficulty in doing. I believe when someone truly loves learning about something, they will pursue learning it against all odds, including society's general idea that kids and teens are less responsible or less capable. To put it short and sweetly, I don't feel restricted in accomplishing things and I pursue having more responsibility and opprtunity for things I care about. As for ending the concept of adolescence, I feel it's more important to create educational environments where students of all ages feel able to follow the careers and life goals they want to then to end the "idea" of adolescence..

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Kumar F. K.

Although I sometimes feel like adults put unnecessary restrictions on my life and don't let me make desicions of my own, I think 'adolescence' is an important part of human development. I heard once that the brain of a teenager is closest to the brain of toddler than any other age group. I do not think that it would be the best idea to have people like me be completely free. I know my friends and I sometimes do not make the best descisions and don't think things through fully; this is probably because we are not as mature and ready to take on the whole world as our teachers, parents, and other adults in our lives are. If I had less restriction, I feel like I wouldn't spend my time much differently. I would still spend most of my time doing my homework and messing around outside. The only real difference I can think of is I would probably stop asking adults for permission when I want to do something. I would just head off to a friends' house on my bike without worrying about what the consequences might be. But although I don't think reducing restrictions would have a huge affect on my life, some people I know would run wild and do all kinds of crazy things. For know, I think that the best way teens can accomplish real world projects would be participating in things like this.

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Marie S.

This is an intriguing question, and I'll probably weigh in again when I've had a chance to read Mr. Epstein's book. My kneejerk opinion is this:

I've had a bit of a bumpy adolescence, so I've been grateful to have eight or ten years to make mistakes. On the other hand, it's possible that I've had a bumpy adolescence precisely because I've spent it under the thumb of people who know better, or that I see myself as an overgrown child who needs to cook until she's civilized because I've been told that I am for years.

I am absolutely certain, however, that a number of these arbitrary restrictions for adolscents do need to be lifted, especially where their education is concerned. I probably wouldn't have the world's teenagers turned loose on the world's univerisities, but they can absolutely be trusted to collaborate with teachers and dicate their own curricula.

This is, essentially, the mission of my high school, which celebrated its fourtieth anniversary this year. The high school program at Jefferson County Open School centers on six intensive projects that are known as Passages, each with a broad theme. (Adventure, Career Exploration, Creativity, Global Awareness, Logical Inquiry and Practical Skills for those of you keeping score at home). Students are free to design their own projects within these themes. This year alone, students have embarked on slam poetry tours, taught classes in indigenous history, created full-scale wheatpaste murals, produced public-access televison shows and written novels through this program, and these are only the first few examples that spring to mind. My fellow students manage such dazzling accomplishments because they are permitted to find and explore their own passions instead of meeting one-size-fits-all requirements dreamed up by their elders in some misaimed attempt at producing "well-rounded" young people.

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Sara W.

I think adolescence is an important time for teenagers to make mistakes and see consequences. If we were just catapulted into adulthood, there would be a lot less wiggle room to try new things, because obviously not everything works out. As an adolescent I feel less pressure to be so accomplished and I appreciate that a little less is expected of me because I can take the opportunities I'm not so sure about, and hey if it doesn't work out, it's still okay. While restrictions can be annoying, I like having a few years to be free of the responsibility I will have for many more.

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Miriam O.

As like us teenagers, adolescence is the perfect time to make mistakes. We are not like adults that have experience in this world. We try new things and mess up but we learn from it. I still have a lot of years in the future to go and i am going through my own abolescent right now. I often think do teens try to be adult already? Yes they do but they really should just do their own thing in ths world. Trying news things are ok and if you mess up. . . its ok cause you still have a long way to live in the future. An then we learn from it and wont do it again, i have done this many times and learning from the best is good! Growing up is how it works we cant stop it we learn from it.

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Wow, I am so sorry for the long post. I got kind of carried away... 

    No one can be restricted by their age for any limitations. I think I gain more respect for more "mature" people, who actually would have their mind set. Like the type of people who are only in the 8th grade and already know what they're going to be (occupation) and where they will attend college. Like Dr. Epstein said, adolescence is not necessarily bad, it allows children to realize their mistakes and later learn to become a better person from these flaws. I think that the more we make acquaintances, the more we are able to be influenced by peer pressure (by not only your friends but everyone). 

    Speaking from a "teenager's" point of view, I think we might get a bit... big-headed and proud of our childhood/"past" that we've currently been through. Although I believe in propriety, some teens have crazed themselves into dilemmas such as these trendy "emo/goth/punk" or "nerd" or "gangster". Part of the adolescence we go through is to make sure we will have something to laugh about when we're all in our grey-haired eighties, and part of it is to realize how irresponsible one can actually be. 

    Wow, I got a 94% on your test, Dr. Epstein. Both physically and age I don't think I would have passed as an adult. Like your scores reflected, adults should be, to some extent, a leader. To me, that's sort of what an adult means; to be able to stand up for your own rights (no matter what they may be) and to be responsible for yourself. 

    A thought for your question - if we have teenagers behave irresponsibly, who knows that type of chaos we'll fall into? Typically portrayed as "bad" teenagers might take bullying up to the next step; use physical abuse to show the world that since they are irresponsible, then they should be careless of others. If you think about both history and future, if we really do let teenagers be irresonsible, think of what ideas it would give the future generation. Don't our parents always scold their children because they aren't "proper like them" or "aren't thankful for their education" because they didn't grow up when gas was 10 cents a gallon? Things started to change. Skirts were cut shorter, shirts were low-cut, dresses were out, now we even have "black light mixers" replace those ballroom dances. I would think that in the ancient times of Shakespeare, things were proper and gave off a feeling of "royalty". Where had that royalty and respect for each other gone, now to be replaced by talking back and being heard rather than seen? 

    Becoming an adult sort of depends on what type of family you were raised in. Some people I have associated with I can easily point out that they aren't going to become very good adults. Some teenagers, if allowed to be irresponsible, might not stop being irresponsible, ever. Although I might be thinking a bit pessimistically here, a few "good students" might branch off of the tainted society and try to fight for what's right and good. They might learn more about discipline and righteousness; morals and what's right/wrong. It's how we learn; some people learn from mistakes and failures while others remember their only successes. 

    I also agree with Molly that teens have and are targeted as the greatest influence by the media and advertising. We now have "modernized" idols, skimpy-outfits, indirectly supporting alcohol and drug use, and setting a bad image by the celebrities of how we're supposed to live life. 

    I might take a side towards ourselves as teens, and say one thing - some adults are really irresponsible. They may have already crossed the maturity and age gap that separates us from them, but for business and big companies, adults make reckless decisions because they are greedy for money, power, or fame. We as teenagers who are helpless and only learn from the adults we see (whether on TV or real life) can only be manipulated by these monopolizing corporations. No one will ever put a stop to this craze - now with the economy going down, everybody would like to have an extra buck to spend. 

    One last thing, I think that some teenagers just have to have their fun. Being influenced by media, peer pressure, and dressing differently just makes us different from adults. We might like being different. But until responsibility can be drilled into their cores, I do not think they should have freedom. Freedom can only be earned. 

     

      Molly -- What does it mean to you that you are about as adult as most adults?

        Kim, it's extremely interesting to research on how our age group has changed throughout the years. It's crazy how it was an impact that swept the entire nation. On Dr.Epstein's note, its an important aspect to look at how our country economically prospers from this age group. Teenagers have also been considered a large portion of the consumer culture, as media and advertising now strengthen the stereotype.

          To Molly M.:  Congratulations on getting an 88% on my test at http://HowAdultAreYou.com Adults on average score about 90% and teens under 18 score about 89%.  - a study with more than 30,000 people - suggests that about

            To Jackquline G. and others who keep saying that the period of life we call "adolescence" (which doesn't exist in more than 100 cultures around the world) is necessary, because it gives you lots of years to "make mistakes" - and presumably, you mean to make mistakes without having to experience serious consequences.  I hope you will reexamine this issue.  The reason why our teens make so many mistakes and experience such turmoil is because they are cut off from the world of responsible adults for many years - trapped with peers and dominated by specialized divisions of large corporations that create the bizarre world known as "teen culture."  They are also given the message, over and over again, that they are supposed to make mistakes.  The role models fed to them by the media machine (which I am part of) show you how to make mistakes - encourage you to make mistakes.  Consider Nirvana's classic song, "Smells Like Teen Spirit."  What's the message?  How about "Load up on guns, bring your friends / It's fun to lose and to pretend."  And just how long with the singer of those famous lyrics live?  If you doubt that our teens our isolated from adults, consider this:  Teens in the U.S. are in contact with peers about 70 hours per week, whereas teens in developing nations are in contact with peers about 5 hours a week.  They spend most of their time learning from and working side by side with the people they will very soon become:  adults.  And none of the turmoil we see here - the conflict with parents, the depression, the suicides (3rd leading cause of death among U.S. teens!), the drug abuse, etc. - none of that turmoil is evident in such cultures.  Do you really think it's wise for our society to set aside a period of years - now typically lasting a decade or more - when people are encouraged to behave irresponsibly?  What are the costs of such a practice?  Is anyone hurt?  Does anyone suffer?  How are families affected?  Sincerely, /re

              To Matthew T:  I talk about the brain development issue in detail in Chapter 7 of Teen 2.0.  The endnotes to that chapter also include many relevant references.  Cordially, /re

                Molly -- also thanks for being the first to post your scores on the tests! I hope others will do that too. After we get a few more I have a question for you...

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                Jackqueline -- I'll throw the same question to you that I pitched to everyone on Friday. If you would be doing more, what would you be doing? I really challenge all of you to imagine that. Let yourselves go outside the box here. [I ask because I wonder if our current definition of achievement is limiting what you think you can do and what many adults think you can do?]

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                Molly and Matthew -- Kudos to both of you for jumping in to learn more. Molly, did what you found out affect your thinking on this topic? (Or maybe you're still mulling it over...it's a lot to take in!) Matthew, I hope you'll post what you learn here.

                  it's interesting to read on everybody's input and how it can change the way you think of adolesence, as Semeo stated. I'd like to bring up the point that Dr. Epstien had stated, "...some characteristics of the teen brain may actually be the result of the bizarre lifestyle that we force our teens to live rather than the cause of that lifestyle."

                  This subject had sparked my interest, and I have done a little research. In the year 1900, the term teenager was nonexistant. There was no estabilishment of a united culture or institution that cultivated development on a societal scale. The average lives of young people consisted of working at home or in factories, while others went to school. At this age, it was normal for many youth to be married or to be preparing for marriage. It's interesting how dramatic this lifestyle changed after WWII. Dress, habits, and even culture began to define this emerging age-group. Eventually, minimum age requirements were put into legislation by the state and federal government regarding sexual consent, marriage, school attendance, work, and later for voting, driving, and drinking alcohol. Eventually, the growing popularity of high schoola nationwide was the most important component in forming the teenage identity. From here on, the lives of youth ages 13-18 were changed impeccably, and impact the way we are percieved today. My information came from the Encyclopedia of Children and Childhood in History and Society: http://www.faqs.org/childhood/So-Th/Teenagers.html

                  If you continue to read the information, it goes into fuller detail of the nature of adolesence.

                  On another note, I had taken the "How adult are you?" test, in the case that the higher you score the better, and suprisingly scored an 88%! The test is evaluated based on your skill in 14 specific categories. My lowest scores were in Love and Physical Abilities, both with 67%, as my highest were in Problem Solving, Managing Work and Money, Education, and Personal Care with 100%.  I also took the time to take the "How Infantillized are you?" test, in the case that "Mainstream adults in the U.S. generally score quite low - under 5 percent. Zero percent is a perfect score, suggesting that the people around you treat you with dignity and respect," and I scored a 44%!

                    As a teenager who has for the past year lived self sufficiently, i believe that the adolescence time period in life is necessary because without being able to make mistakes as a teen you will never know what not to do as an adult. I do believe that as you get older as an adolescent there should be less restrictions, like a 17 year old and a 13 year old should not be under the same restrictions considering that in minnesota if you're 17 and have finished highschool you no longer need a parent to sign anything, meaning you have become your own guardian. I do think that i could be accomplishing more if it was not necessary to have a parent/guardian's approval and/or signature to do many things.

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