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Week 1: How will high school change?

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Frank Douma

Research Fellow and Associate Director, Humphrey School of Public Affairs

Check out Frank's video:

The speaker in the video, Frank Douma, doesn’t extend his views to future student learning, but let’s think about that.

Minnesota already offers online schooling (EdVisions Off Campus and Blue Sky Online School are just two), where students work from home or another space and can work outside of certain hours. They even meet up with teachers face-to-face online.

Some researchers have predicted that by 2019 (8 years from now!), half of high school classes will be delivered online. Policymakers might help this along because it could save the state money (less spent on buildings, fewer personnel needed, roads, etc).

What will high school be like in 50 years? (Remember there is no right answer!)

Student Commentator Responses:
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Daniel B.

High school in 50 years will be drastically different (as i said in the poll). I don't think that info will be beamed into our heads nothing like that. "common" people like me wont be able to learn. The reason is the government want so keep themselves in power so they don't let the common people learn because they might think there smart and they will try to over through the government many political people probably think that. Unfortunately for them the U.S.A. is totally against that. All men shall stand equal. Unfortunately we found out people were not willing to obey that in the early days like segregation. All men not just those who we want or choose.....

I mean thats what happened in the past.... so it probably will happen in the future. I mean history repeats itself.

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Ann D.

I agree with Daniel B., we definitely do have to look at different trends throughout history and find how they will reappear in the future, but it may not happen so obviously. With technology advancing so rapidly reoccurring patterns may be changed some.

I answered "some what changed" to the poll for many reasons. Frank Douma talks about in the video the reoccurring wants and needs and things, just evolved. I feel we have to take this into consideration because even as the opportunities to take classes online and maybe even be "downloaded" with information, kids will be kids as they say, and we will still have the need to do something social in our everyday life, which for many is something school provides.

Possibly instead of simply evolving our education, more options may come out of all the new opportunities. We have to be prepared that some students simply learn better in a group environment so this way of obtaining an education will probably still be provided. As seen today though, others will obviously choose an online option for getting their education. These ways will definitely become more advanced.

The possibility of not even having to attend classes (of any sort) is simply amazing. It is definitely something that could happen in almost fifty years. Today there are studies about learning things in your sleep and many people are focused on learning as much as they can about the brain. If it could be pulled off, a nearly hassle-free way of learning that wouldn't occupy countless days would definitely be opted for by many citizens.

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Louise E.

I agree with Ann that online schools will definitely become more common in the future, however, there will still be traditional schools as well. There are advantages and disadvantages to each. Online schools would allow a more flexible schedule for students and teachers, it would be cheaper for the state and students would become more familiar with how to use technology appropriately. However online schools might stifle social growth, and some classes would be difficult to take online such as orchestra or gym.

Although it wouldn’t be the same as sitting in a classroom and interacting with each other, I think you it would still be possible to work together through the internet and create more of a “group learning” atmosphere. Students could interact with each other through a variety of ways including e-mail, blogs, webcams, skype etc. Also, I think it would be a great learning opportunity for students to have online schools where students in the online “school” were from different states or even different countries. If these online schools allowed students to interact with each other through technology, it would allow them to have a more global perspective of the world and a better understanding of different cultures.

Right now it seems like schools are strictly either online schools are traditional schools. However, in the future maybe we could combine these different types of schools. Perhaps this would be a day to day system where one day students would go to a physical building with a classroom and the next day they would take their class online. Or it could be a system where for one semester, students would go to a traditional, and one semester students would go to school online. This would allow students to maintain their social skills while still being able to have a more flexible schedule at times. In the online semester students could travel or have time to focus on a sport/hobby/interest yet still get their regular school work done online.

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Hannah O.

I certainly hope high schools don't all transfer to online courses... call me old school but the teacher-student communication is by far too valuable to lose to online relationships. Video chat is fine and dandy, but it's no where near the same as having someone physically there to help you grow and succeed.

I definitely agree that online schooling is going to stunt our ability to grow socially. School is a time where we not only learn how to learn book-stuff (for lack of better terms) but we also learn how to act in a socially acceptable manner. Our interactions as young children to the time where we are young adults not only shape our sphere of friends, but it shapes who we are and who be become in future years.

I personally can't wrap my head around these ideas.. the internet can take place of everything.. it's just asking for trouble. To me, this is leading to text-based marriages and Skype family dinners, and I just don't like it.

In fifty years, high schools will have a more integrated focus (in my opinion).. schools will be focused more towards real-world learning experiences with more opportunities to get outside and learn by doing not be hearing. The combination of technology and traditional schooling-- I can see being big. Even now, a lot of schools do combine their classes with internet programs.. A lot of schools in District 196 use a website called Moodle to put assignments online as well as host discussion forums and it integrates the use of technology into a traditional school.

One last point.. Online schools can be difficult because there is no "my dog ate my homework" or "I left it at school". There really has to be the motivation to get work done and to do it on time and to the best of one's ability. I've had a couple friends who transferred to Online Schooling for senior year and decided to switch back because they just couldn't motivate themselves to actually get their work done.

High school for me changed after two years. I went to a traditional school freshman and sophomore year and then for junior and senior year I switched to a non-traditional school where everything is hands on and experiential. To be honest, I would really like to see more schools like mine in 50 years.

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Joey L.

High school will not be anything like it is today. Most school will be conducted in online classrooms with more individual, isolated learning. I don't like this idea. People need people. Also, while the idea that the state could save money, the questions comes into mind is that schools serve as community hubs - with voting and community education etc happening in them - what will take the place as our social center? I wonder if eventually what learning will actually be like is probably like downloading. There are books called Shadow Run - set in the future - where people have data jacks directly into their brains - where people interact with each other and with information in a matrix based world that sounds not unlike Tron. This may seem a bit fanciful, but scientists are looking into the possibility that DNA could be integrated with machines on a nano level - so it makes the idea of coupling with machines more real and less science fiction.

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Although i do believe that the number of students taking classes online will rise , i do not believe that there will be a huge drop in the number of students who decide to attend regular schooling. I say this because as someone who has been to private school, public school, online school and an alternative school, i believe that the student/teacher relationship in learning is quite hard to do when you attend school online. when you're attending online school you have to be able to be really self directed becuase they don't check to see what work you have completed, and aren't there as often to help; if you have questions it can take up to 2 weeks to get a reply. whereas in a traditional school setting you can get helped immediately, i think that if there were studies done those students who have been to both traditional schools and those who take all their classes online i think many would both agree that there is a lot more help for you if you attend school in a school building and not online. Although i do believe that the internet is a wonderful tool when combined with other learning techniques i do not believe that the internet alone should be what we teach our next generation with.
I think that what Nafiso has said would be a huge disappointment because like he said there would be no need for anyone to be social unless they're talking online. I think that this would only further the US' problems with the deficit and everything else. When everyone only speaks online their communication skills drop greatly and without communication skills our economy would worsen.

    I agree with all of you. I do believe that high school education will change tremendously. It will be more indepenant work and education will be a privilage and going to a real high school with buildings and desks will be very odd. I do believe that the government is going to emphasis on online learning and for some reason I have this notion that high school education will be paid for instead of being open to the general public. Money will be generated but ideas will become stiff. Knowledge will grow and their would/could be less motivation to learn. Nowadays,the worlds richest people are without a complete education. As the years grow by creativity will move the general public. I think that online education is going to cause a less need for interactiveness hence,lessening our social personality. There could be classes that are more hands on still going on with teachers and one-on-one. Either way, there are ways around education and learning comes in many forms.  

      Is there a way for there to be online learning, but not the stifling of social growth? For example, Louise pointed out that orchestra can't be taught online. Does this mean that we couldn't find another way for a student to be part of an orchestra, and get socialization to boot? Let's say there were a public school orchestra that drew students from many areas and students had a certain amount of extracurricular dollars to distribute amongst courses like that.

      I think home school families have figured this one out to some extent already... Daniel, how do you get socialization opportunities? (I'm asking because you attend an online school.)

        Everyone - in your vision of school in 2061 -- what does a typical school day look like? Do you have to travel someplace to attend gym, orchestra or chem lab? Can you handle it all from home? What aspects of this do you like? Dislike?

          Lindsey-- I loved this video! I watched it awhile ago when I got the link in an email, and I couldn't click away. I really liked the model he discussed because it utilized both personal communication as well as with technology. I really thought the way he got his start was incredible too-- he was just tutoring his nephews and then it took off once they were posted on YouTube. I've actually watched a couple of the calculus videos and I'd definitely say they were helpful!! Sometimes learning is easier when you get the chance to pause and really take note of the things you're struggling with. The combination of both strategies seems to be really beneficial.. he said the teachers in the schools that use his videos to supplement their class really have seen an improvement.

            Throughout a lot of our online dialogue I hear the recurring theme of connecting with people. I think that's really interesting. One of the best takes on online education I've encountered is Salman Khan talking about his online Khan Academy. (It's a GREAT listen.)  In his talk he mentions that teachers tell him they use his online lessons to turn traditional teaching models upside down. They assign his lessons as homework and then use classroom time to spending one-on-one time with students. What do you all think of this model? Using technology to better connect with students?

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